P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED)

Herve Sors
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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Apr 15, 2020 22:13:26 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on Apr 15, 2020 22:13:26 GMT

Hi all,

By now, tools I provide for updating/analyzing sim BGL files will not be compatible with the newly released P3DV5 and you SHALL NOT use them with this version

Here is the situation and future projects

Navaids
Navaid record structure (NVX files and embedded terminal NDBs inside APX files) has not changed as compared to previous versions. The only differences are:
- An updated set is included but is still a bit outdated (and sometimes a bit off as compared to current AIRAC data especially as regards decommissioned navaids, navaid ranges and magvar data)
- TACANs records have been included (note that TACAN structure has not changed since P3Dv2 although they were not included in vP3DV2-V4 NVX files)
Considering it is unknown if provided navaid data will be updated in the future, I will propose, starting with AIRAC cycle 2006 an up to date set that will be limited to VORs, TACAN and enroute NDBs. Terminal NDBs (those included in APX files) will be untouched at the moment even if some are not anymore up to date (changed or decommissioned).
A dedicated installer will be available

ILSs
ILS record structure also didn't change.
Updating ILSs (addition, removal or changes) inside airport APX files whose structure changed is possible but will require some more time to ensure other elements are unchanged and fully functional.
I will not provide APX file replacements so as to comply with EULA/copyright rules
I will provide in due time a dedicated editor that will permit ILS/NDB edition inside APX files. That will be for personal use ONLY

Other airport data
Considering airport and runway records have changed, and most data have been properly updated, I will not provide by now any edition tool for them

MagVar
The magdec.bgl file seems to have an identical structure as compared to previous versions (since FSX).
The updated FSX/P3D 2020 file available on my site can be used instead, although I didn't test if there is any advantage replacing the default one

More later on. Take care and keep safe

Last Edit: Apr 18, 2020 13:24:48 GMT by Herve Sors

WalBob Guest	P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Apr 19, 2020 4:25:27 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by WalBob on Apr 19, 2020 4:25:27 GMT Hi Herve - Love your work and looking forward to the v5 future updates.

Paul Guest	P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Apr 19, 2020 8:44:40 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Paul on Apr 19, 2020 8:44:40 GMT Hello Hervé, Thanks for the update. Can't wait to install your data in V5. Kind regards, Paul

Karan Guest	P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Apr 24, 2020 8:39:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Karan on Apr 24, 2020 8:39:25 GMT Thank you for the update and your service thus far. It is much appreciated.

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) May 3, 2020 8:26:08 GMT

Post by AKar on May 3, 2020 8:26:08 GMT

Apr 15, 2020 22:13:26 GMT Herve Sors said:

Other airport data
Considering airport and runway records have changed, and most data have been properly updated, I will not provide by now any edition tool for them

Thanks for your continued efforts Herve!

A question on the above - as dumb as it sounds, I've been mostly using AIE to edit 3rd party airports, not so much the stock airports. Not to name any specific developer, they often do have outdated runway numbering and their ILS data wrong (among some other less important things). I suspect that when ported to v5, the discrepancies will remain.

Hence, it would, at least from my point-of-view, make much sense to make AIE compatible with v5 if it is not too big a hassle.

-Esa

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) May 3, 2020 10:16:58 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on May 3, 2020 10:16:58 GMT

Hi Akar

I intend to provide at least an airport Navaid editor for P3DV5 that will permit ILS, terminal NDB and marker edition (It is probably the most wanted and needed tool since many of these facilities are not so up to date in P3DV5). It should be available in a couple of weeks. En route navaids will be updatable with the new World Navaids package at the time AIRAC cycle 2006 is released.
By now, I refrain providing a full airport editor considering (i) it is a much more demanding tool (ii) airport BGL structure has significantly changed and requires some more investigation and tests (iii) there's not so many problems at the moment with the new airport data as provided by P3DV5. Of course, my plan may change in the future regarding that

Hervé

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) May 22, 2020 18:01:15 GMT

Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 18:01:15 GMT

Hi Herve,
I still use your bglnaveditor and easynavs. Previously mostly in P3D version 3. Now I'm porting my selfmade scenerys for Russia (mostly forgotten or misplaced AP's) to version 5. I ran into a problem trying to compile an APX file where I added a new VOR with easynavs. Compile error; it turned out there were 2 NDB's with the same Ident ("L")and Regiocode "UW". The file is APX60120, the Ap's Ulyanovsk (UWLL) and Cheboksary (UWKS).
Has it always been so (no 2 same ident and regio code)? How did they do it at Lockheed Martin?
Finally i made a new database and put that VOR into it, compiled and everything seems to work

nand144

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) May 22, 2020 18:53:40 GMT

Post by niksan29 on May 22, 2020 18:53:40 GMT

May 3, 2020 8:26:08 GMT AKar said:

A question on the above - as dumb as it sounds, I've been mostly using AIE to edit 3rd party airports, not so much the stock airports. Not to name any specific developer, they often do have outdated runway numbering and their ILS data wrong (among some other less important things). I suspect that when ported to v5, the discrepancies will remain.
Hence, it would, at least from my point-of-view, make much sense to make AIE compatible with v5 if it is not too big a hassle.

Hi!
Fortunately, as you may have already noticed in the announcements, Herve was able to transfer the full functionality of his AIE tool to work with Prepar3dv5

As for third-party airports, I can agree, for the most part this is poor navigation (a lot of inaccuracies), but thanks to AIE tools we can easily fix a lot

May 22, 2020 18:01:15 GMT @nand144 said:

Now I'm porting my selfmade scenerys for Russia (mostly forgotten or misplaced AP's) to version 5. I ran into a problem trying to compile an APX file where I added a new VOR with easynavs.

there is no need to add a VOR to an APX file, a VOR should be stored in a NVX file.
also if you are using a world nav pack:
www.aero.sors.fr/hfiles/FSXP3D_WorldNavaids.zip
then all the more is no need to add a VOR, they are all already in this package

at the moment, only for P5 is not available to update terminal NDB, but probably in the future Herve will be able to release and this update package too.

Last Edit: May 23, 2020 7:16:04 GMT by niksan29

Cheers!

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Oct 19, 2020 10:22:35 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on Oct 19, 2020 10:22:35 GMT

** OCTOBER 2020 update **

I started correcting P3DV5 ILSs, airport runways and associated facilities (COM, lighting, PAPIs..)
As indicated in my initial post I will not provide publically via a download link on my site APX file replacements so as to comply with LM EULA/copyright rules
However, I can provide on request updated data for personal use. For that, just email me indicating which airports interest you.
Then I will try to provide you updated files. However, it may take me some time, depending on the number of applications I will have. In the middle/long term, all important airports should be available
Not that corrections can also be performed on your own using the latest AIE software (v2.25)

Enjoy

rod New Member Posts: 1	P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Jun 16, 2022 16:53:08 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rod on Jun 16, 2022 16:53:08 GMT hello, is there any way to get the airac update for p3dV5? Tanks

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P3Dv5 compatibility and future projects (EDITED) Jun 17, 2022 17:08:38 GMT

Post by niksan29 on Jun 17, 2022 17:08:38 GMT

Jun 16, 2022 16:53:08 GMT rod said:

is there any way to get the airac update for p3dV5?

Hello!
The World P3Dv5 package (En route and terminal navaids, ILSs and airport data, worldwide coverage) can be provided on request to Herve Sors by email ( this can be found on the main page: www.aero.sors.fr ).

And World P3Dv5 package for personal use only.

Last Edit: Jun 17, 2022 17:12:18 GMT by niksan29

Cheers!

Post by Herve Sors on Apr 15, 2020 22:13:26 GMT

Post by WalBob on Apr 19, 2020 4:25:27 GMT

Post by Paul on Apr 19, 2020 8:44:40 GMT

Post by Karan on Apr 24, 2020 8:39:25 GMT

Post by AKar on May 3, 2020 8:26:08 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on May 3, 2020 10:16:58 GMT

Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 18:01:15 GMT

Post by niksan29 on May 22, 2020 18:53:40 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on Oct 19, 2020 10:22:35 GMT

Post by rod on Jun 16, 2022 16:53:08 GMT

Post by niksan29 on Jun 17, 2022 17:08:38 GMT