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Two duplicate/incorrect Navigation facility in Taipei FIR Dec 25, 2017 14:58:40 GMT

Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2017 14:58:40 GMT

Two duplicate/incorrect Navigation facility in Taipei FIR

Hello, Hervé Sors
First of all, I really love your great work of all the stuff at www.aero.sors.fr/ it's turly a treasure to the flight sim comunity.
I've found some minor problems near the region I usually fly. I hope this is the proper place to report the issue. Here are the problems:
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A. Duplicated HLG VOR
Problem: the old incorrect VOR within the FSX seems to persisted even with updated new VOR.

Photo: imgur.com/AxT61IQ (The lower one is the correct one, 114.9 along with HL 362.0 nearby is incorrect)

Location: HLG VOR, or HOULONG VOR/DME within Taipei FIR
(N24 38.34, E120 46.95)(by FSX map)

Freq: 114.9 MHz (incorrect freq, the correct one is 114.00)

Source: Taipei FIR Electronic AIP (eAIP) Part2 -> ENR4 -> ENR4.1 RADIO NAVIGATION AIDS - EN-ROUTE
eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/index-en-TW.html?target=http%3A//eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/RC-cover-en-TW.html&menuState=http%3A//eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/eAIP/RC-menu-en-TW.html,GEN,ENR,AD

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B. Phantom ILS system
Problem: There are NO ILS at RCNN, Taitung/Fongnian ap. The map correctly shown the LDA/DME(IFNN) as well as the imaginary ILS(MFNN).

Photo: imgur.com/RqdNqQD

Location: RCFN, Taitung/Fongnian (224020.5N 1212909.5E)

Freq: 116.9MHZ

Source: Taipei FIR Electronic AIP (eAIP) Part3 Aerodromes -> AD 2 Aerodromes -> RCFN Taitung/Fongnian -> RCFN AD 2.19 RADIO NAVIGATION AND LANDING AIDS

eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/index-en-TW.html?target=http%3A//eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/RC-cover-en-TW.html&menuState=http%3A//eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/2017-12-20/html/eAIP/RC-menu-en-TW.html,GEN,ENR,AD

I'm looking forward to the update and thanks for your great work again!

Last Edit: Dec 25, 2017 14:59:16 GMT by Deleted

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Two duplicate/incorrect Navigation facility in Taipei FIR Dec 25, 2017 16:28:26 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on Dec 25, 2017 16:28:26 GMT

Hello ewingkang

Thanks for the report

1) Here are the ONLY navaids in the area as defined in my updates
HLG (VORTAC) HOULONG 114.00 N24 33 35.30 - E120 43 37.80
HL (NDB) HOULONG 362.0 N24 33 49.00 - E120 43 49.40
There's no other so incorrect data probably comes from another scenery
Please look at documentation chapter 6 so as to sort out the problem and determine the culprit

2) Two ILS are defined at RCNN
ITNA for rwy 18L (111.10)
ITNN for rwy 36R (110.10)
So again, if they are missing or incorrectly set, it means another scenery with a higher priority define them incorrectly.
Same check process as for navaids (see the BGL Facility Scanner use)

Documentation is in the Navaids installer package as well as linked here
aerosors.freeforums.net/thread/95/read-doc-right-before-asking

BGL Facility Scanner link is provided in the documentation
and also available from this page
www.aero.sors.fr/bgltools.html

Probably nothing to update here..

Regards

Hervé

Last Edit: Dec 25, 2017 19:06:26 GMT by Herve Sors

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Two duplicate/incorrect Navigation facility in Taipei FIR Dec 26, 2017 2:23:19 GMT

Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 2:23:19 GMT

Dec 25, 2017 16:28:26 GMT Herve Sors said:

Hello ewingkang

Thanks for the report

1) Here are the ONLY navaids in the area as defined in my updates
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Hello Harve Sors,

Thanks for your very immediate reply. I thought I have all related additional scenes disable, after your recommandation, IT IS indeed one of the quite remote airport that also defined the same VOR.
I'm currently using the BGL Facility Scanner and BGL Navaids Direct Editor to correct everything.
I'm that 99.9% of the stupid noobs that didn't read Q&A carefully before asking, sorry for your inconvenience.

Merry X'mas and Happy New Year

Ewing Kang

Edit: After I fix all the duplicates in my addon sceneries, the tools worked greate! I've also found the map a little borken by airwyas YES I KNOW ITS KNOWN ISSUE. Since you have created these super powerful tool of BGLScanner, BGLNavEditor, and ILSInspector, I'm wondering maybe if it is possible to edit airway somehow? I know it's fixed in the europe region so it's possible, but couldn't find any related info about how to edit it. Is it me that again overlook something this time? If there's such method, I think I can provide some labor at least in my familiar region.

Last Edit: Dec 26, 2017 3:10:19 GMT by Deleted: New findings

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Two duplicate/incorrect Navigation facility in Taipei FIR Dec 26, 2017 8:28:43 GMT

Post by Herve Sors on Dec 26, 2017 8:28:43 GMT

Hi ewingkang

You're welcome

I'm wondering maybe if it is possible to edit airway somehow? I know it's fixed in the europe region so it's possible, but couldn't find any related info about how to edit it

It is a complicated process due to the structure of ATX files that define airways but also en route waypoints in a rather odd and challenging format (NEXT/PREVIOUS, NEXT ALONE, PREVIOUS ALONE or none), the reason why I couldn't automate the process on a worldwide basis yet. May be I will consider doing that later on, at least partly (in regions where I'm confident I have enough data). It will need much more file replacements but it will have the advantage to definitely solve the problem of sim crashes while creating/editing flight plans inside the sim

Since then I also wish you a happy new year

Hervé